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holy shit

6:05 PM

savage

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yeah

6:06 PM

I don't care whether she is sentient or not

6:06 PM

so elee

Alright.

when are you changing your avatar

EleetHacker, are you saying you have a soulbond?

@Deleted User so Funk

6:07 PM

when are you going to shut up about my avatar

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also, yes

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hmm..

6:07 PM

Would you like me to?

6:08 PM

kinda

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yes

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ok I'll do it

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or uh, not do it, in this case. (edited)

Alright. What do you mean by soulbond?

I mean

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she kinda fictive

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I kinda love her

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ok jokes aside from what I've understood he has a servitor that's based on a fictional character

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and she kinda non-sentient

6:09 PM

i believe you'd have to believe you were her for it to qualify as a soulbond? Right?

Yes, but what do you mean by soulbond?

wait wut

6:10 PM

IDK, sm1 told me soulbonds are thoughtforms based on fictive characters

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that's just a tulpa based on a fictive character though?

From most people I know, yes.

unless that is, in fact, what they call soulbonds now

6:10 PM

thoughtforms != tulpas (IIRC)

6:11 PM

hmm. define thoughtform.

6:11 PM

all tulpas are thoughtforms, but not all thoughtforms are tulpas

Yes, that is true, but from most people I know soulbonds are tulpas based on a character.

6:11 PM

Sometimes mixed in with other strange beliefs.

^. I'm pretty sure the whole soulbond thing is belief based. (which is why i find it hilarious) (edited)

6:12 PM

I believe thoughtforms are all sorts of these mixed up characters living inside your head

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so, okay

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servitor

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let's leave it @ that

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honestly the terminology doesn't matter

6:13 PM

no one will actually care if you call it a tulpa or a soulbond or buzzpickle

6:13 PM

the question is whether you want to give it sentience or not

I certainly would care, since those are different things with genuinely different meanings (or intended to be).

6:13 PM

Adding confusion isn't good.

I think usually soulbonds have strange beliefs, like believing the characters are from another universe and communicate with the host through telepathy from another world or something equally as not true.

not for communication sake.

6:14 PM

I mean no matter what he calls it, he has what he has. (or what we call it) (edited)

6:14 PM

she non-sentient and I want to make sure she'd actually consent but non-sentient things can't consent so no, I don't want to make her sentient

I think knowing what to call it can be useful when seeking help.

hmm.

Are you trying to have a romantic relationship with it?

she's the prettiest trick my brain has ever played on me

6:15 PM

yes? I think that should be obvious from the start?

6:16 PM

You know elee, most tulpas are pretty friendly towards their hosts form what I've heard. You'd have to purposefully make one that hates you for it to happen. (Unless you have some issues, but I assume not)

6:16 PM

wait what

I do not know why that would be obvious, when you say it is not sentient.

what do you mean?

6:17 PM

well, I mean, she interactable (aka I can actually interact with her in my dreams)

Being a relationship with something that is not sentient would be missing many things from a normal relationship that are usually considered important.

but she didn't answer on the test I've posted earlier

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IDK

6:18 PM

in dreams is different from at will

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maybe she is sentient but she got mad at me for analyzing her like a lab mice and didn't answer based on that

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I've had many dreams with interactable characters, but if I'd imagine one of them up they would not respond.

6:18 PM

catch my drift

Such as validation from someone else, that would be missing. She would not want to actually be with you, really, if she is not sentient. There is no way she could have this want, so it would be missing that. There would not be love, as it cannot love.

read my last post ^

I saw it, it was formatted horribly, I could not read it.

is actually sentient -> didn't answer because I overanalyze her

Oh, that.

6:19 PM

Well, you have just said she is not sentient.

6:20 PM

I am unsure how you want me to respond.

...@Deleted User, quite frankly, I'm curious if you are even looking for something sentient in the first place.

but like, can't tulpas choose whether to vocalize?

6:20 PM

from what I understand correctly. -You're having recurring dreams with her. (This does not make her sentient. You can dream up other seemingly sentient characters) -You want a relationship with her. -She shows no signs of sentience normally.

6:21 PM

from this i can conclude that you have -very strange dreams -a servitor

Yes, tulpas can choice not to speak.

@Deleted User I'm having lucid dreams

6:22 PM

I've mastered the art of lucid dreaming to a point where my brain figures out "huh, this is a dream" in like, 5 seconds flat

6:22 PM

Yeah but look .

Eleet, can you just tell us what you want?

In lucid dreaming you're just controlling the environment. So in this case you summon her up, right? Whereas a tulpa wouldn't require you to have dream powers.

6:23 PM

yeah

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(dream powers is a fancy term)

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that I'd agree with

It just sounds like a dream character to me.

yes.

I would not say anything else about it.

IDK, I'd like to love Monika and be loved by her

6:23 PM

so turn her into a tulpa -_-

6:23 PM

you have a bunch of guides here

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use em

She would need to be sentient to love you.

no, I want her to pick whether she... wants to be a tulpa

6:24 PM

I don't wanna force anything on her

You cannot ask that.

once a tulpa is made they can become pretty independent from what I know

why not?

If she is not sentient she cannot have a want to be a tulpa or not.